Don’t die is kind of like the Superman’s lament in Thus Spake Zarathustra and it is satanic, in style as the reverse of divine knowledge from outside. I also think it lacks the Huxley’s philosophy in Ape and Essence. The logic of antideism may be pro-ape.
Having worked w/Jane Goodall on Caliban’s Children, she looked at our near relations with 98 % the same genes. Among Chimpanzees and the great apes there are peaceful matrelinear tribes. Power passed down by women as nurturing. And apes despite their size and power are vegetarians, love bean shoots? And don’t make war. And bury their dead.
So I propose we look to our primate cousins for longevity. How they live, think, family structures, language-communication. Man, the big-brained ape has removed himself from identifying with the natural world.
Don’t die is more “removal” for our neurotic apehood. Why we are teisted enough to make war and try to normalize robots.
Why would we elevate as our overseers machines without feelings? Emotion and communication are linked! Intuition is a whole body activity—not just the brain? What colossal stupidity to devalue this facility we may not “understsnd?”
I understand you “heterodox” thinkers have to default to choosing the viewpoint counter to the common sense consensus among left-leaning people because it’s the hippest new way to feel intellectually superior in/to the Discourse, but what if you DIDN’T have to do it when it didn’t make any sense? This guy is a narcissistic freak of nature who is so overly absorbed with spending every waking moment about “health” that he isn’t actually living the life that he’s so addicted to trying to extend. Not to mention the bulk of the advice he gives (eat fresh food, go outside) are ludicrously self-evident, and the rest is either goofy-ass experimental nonsense that no real person will have access to OR involves buying supplements that HE personally will sell you on his website. What’s missing with the step back that religion has taken in this country isn’t some unifying purpose for life on earth, that’s pretty easy, just try to improve the material and emotional conditions for those around you and seek out love and joy through artistic pursuits — what we’re missing is community, places to gather together once a week, things in common to connect over. There are plenty of ways we can replace what’s lost that don’t involve identifying with some rich loser’s faux-humanist bullshit.
I can totally see why you have this reaction to Johnson, but I think you're judging him too harshly and dismissing him too quickly. Some of his ideas are genuinely pretty interesting. For example, he has this idea that we could create a professional sport out of achieving the best health scores across any number of metrics. People dedicate their lives to golf, poker, paintball, and all kinds of goofy things. Why not dedicate your life to having the best heart rate, or cooking the healthiest meals?
And allllllll kinds of narcissists promote the ideology of live fast and die young. Why not take a moment to appreciate this one narcissist who promotes the "anti-death-cult" ideology living longer better?
Seems it lacks the humility of religion. "Don't die" is utterly unachievable in a way serve god is not (not just because it's unfalsifiable, what you're doing to "serve god"). Serving *whatever* does not automatically indicate you must serve it indefinitely.
Let's say Johnson lives to 200. As he feels himself winding down, his new goal is 300, then 400 etc. At some point he must resign himself to decay.
All these longevity guys always say the same basic thing about this topic, because I think there's really only one thing to say: There really is no being 200 or 300 or whatever. There's just being alive and feeling good. At any given moment, if you're conscious and feel healthy in mind and body, you're good.
Also the fact that humans live as long as we do, not as long as tortoises or trees, is kind of arbitrary. Imagine if the human lifespan topped out at 25. Then the people talking about living to 80 would sound like lunatics. Till it happened. Then it would just be normal and boring.
Don’t die is kind of like the Superman’s lament in Thus Spake Zarathustra and it is satanic, in style as the reverse of divine knowledge from outside. I also think it lacks the Huxley’s philosophy in Ape and Essence. The logic of antideism may be pro-ape.
Having worked w/Jane Goodall on Caliban’s Children, she looked at our near relations with 98 % the same genes. Among Chimpanzees and the great apes there are peaceful matrelinear tribes. Power passed down by women as nurturing. And apes despite their size and power are vegetarians, love bean shoots? And don’t make war. And bury their dead.
So I propose we look to our primate cousins for longevity. How they live, think, family structures, language-communication. Man, the big-brained ape has removed himself from identifying with the natural world.
Don’t die is more “removal” for our neurotic apehood. Why we are teisted enough to make war and try to normalize robots.
Why would we elevate as our overseers machines without feelings? Emotion and communication are linked! Intuition is a whole body activity—not just the brain? What colossal stupidity to devalue this facility we may not “understsnd?”
Don’t Die might better be—Live on
I like the "Live On" framing. It's more hopeful!
I understand you “heterodox” thinkers have to default to choosing the viewpoint counter to the common sense consensus among left-leaning people because it’s the hippest new way to feel intellectually superior in/to the Discourse, but what if you DIDN’T have to do it when it didn’t make any sense? This guy is a narcissistic freak of nature who is so overly absorbed with spending every waking moment about “health” that he isn’t actually living the life that he’s so addicted to trying to extend. Not to mention the bulk of the advice he gives (eat fresh food, go outside) are ludicrously self-evident, and the rest is either goofy-ass experimental nonsense that no real person will have access to OR involves buying supplements that HE personally will sell you on his website. What’s missing with the step back that religion has taken in this country isn’t some unifying purpose for life on earth, that’s pretty easy, just try to improve the material and emotional conditions for those around you and seek out love and joy through artistic pursuits — what we’re missing is community, places to gather together once a week, things in common to connect over. There are plenty of ways we can replace what’s lost that don’t involve identifying with some rich loser’s faux-humanist bullshit.
I can totally see why you have this reaction to Johnson, but I think you're judging him too harshly and dismissing him too quickly. Some of his ideas are genuinely pretty interesting. For example, he has this idea that we could create a professional sport out of achieving the best health scores across any number of metrics. People dedicate their lives to golf, poker, paintball, and all kinds of goofy things. Why not dedicate your life to having the best heart rate, or cooking the healthiest meals?
And allllllll kinds of narcissists promote the ideology of live fast and die young. Why not take a moment to appreciate this one narcissist who promotes the "anti-death-cult" ideology living longer better?
Seems it lacks the humility of religion. "Don't die" is utterly unachievable in a way serve god is not (not just because it's unfalsifiable, what you're doing to "serve god"). Serving *whatever* does not automatically indicate you must serve it indefinitely.
Let's say Johnson lives to 200. As he feels himself winding down, his new goal is 300, then 400 etc. At some point he must resign himself to decay.
All these longevity guys always say the same basic thing about this topic, because I think there's really only one thing to say: There really is no being 200 or 300 or whatever. There's just being alive and feeling good. At any given moment, if you're conscious and feel healthy in mind and body, you're good.
Also the fact that humans live as long as we do, not as long as tortoises or trees, is kind of arbitrary. Imagine if the human lifespan topped out at 25. Then the people talking about living to 80 would sound like lunatics. Till it happened. Then it would just be normal and boring.